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Halo lads and ladies if any is playing.
As you all know admin has announced new update that is coming in next few days.
One of most important changes in game is announced but without any attempt to explain
how that will impact game. I will go far enough to say that impact will be so great that
just by fact that little information we did get was attempted to be buried within all that
"events" maybe in hope that we will we wont see it.
Honestly lads, this will have impact as much as did removal of gold rewards for medals we got
years back, so please dont skip it, i know it will be long article, but it is so important
as this update is horrendous for all, fighters, producers, small players and big.
= With admin announcement of splitting AIR companies back to Land and Sea weapons simplicity where we have one weapon for all battles will be gone
So instead of air we will have Army weapon for land, and Navy weapon for sea battles.
First thing we can see from this picture apart from 2 new weapons factories, its upgrade cost and number of employees that can be used per factory.
Total cost of upgrading to Q7 Air factory is 1930g, and plan change will be significantly lower at 1280, in fact about 35%!!!
Now you might think its good thing, and maybe it is , but if you look back just 2 months ago, where many players used their gold to upgrade or build new companies, well congratulations as admin has just wiped out 35% of value of your company.
If you your value of all Air companies today is lets say 10 000 gold after update it will be about 6500, but for big players whose companies are valued 100k or more, their loss will be from 35 000 to maybe even 100 000gold..
On other hand future company upgrade will be much cheaper and you might be happy about that till you dont realize that this update will also impact ability to earn gold easily wiping out that 35%. , i will go in to that more below.
Second thing is number of workers that can work in Q7 factory.
Lets get something clear to Admin, Nobody is using workers anywhere but in top tier factory!!!
So dangling having number of workers at lower tiers is useless and really not needed.
But what is important is that number of workers on Q7 is reduced by 20%
Another big change is Firepower!
Here we can see big nerf in damage that weapons will give with example where player has 100M base dmg
Current ------ example --------------- New -------- example --------- Difference
Q1 --- - x0.4 --------- 140M dmg ----- x0.3 -------130M dmg -------- 10M per 1000 energy
Q2 --- - x0.8 --------- 180M dmg ----- x0.6 -------160M dmg -------- 20M per 1000 energy
Q3 --- - x1.2 --------- 220M dmg ----- x0.9 -------190M dmg -------- 30M per 1000 energy
Q4 --- - x1.6 --------- 260M dmg ----- x1.2 -------220M dmg -------- 40M per 1000 energy
Q5 --- - x2 --------- 300M dmg ----- x1.5 -------250M dmg -------- 50M per 1000 energy
Q6 --- - x2.5 --------- 350M dmg ----- x1.8 -------280M dmg -------- 70M per 1000 energy
Q7 --- - x3 --------- 400M dmg ----- x2.1 -------310M dmg -------- 90M per 1000 energy
So as you can see, if you without weapon do 100M dmg, with current air you do 400M, after update you will be doing 310M, so about 25% less, meaning you will have to hit 25% more to get TP medal, but there its even worse than that.
You apply Booster, mostly used is Q3 with Q7 Air, than you will do 520 M dmg, after change it will be 403M, and with Q5 Buster now 600M and after 465M so 32% less dmg, or 32% more hits needed for TP medal.
Now, when cat is out of bag , that is not all.
If you need more hits for TP, it means you need more energy and more food.
I will calculate cost of doing 10 billion dmg that some need for TP medal with many players needing vastly more with as above example of 100M base dmg player. Cost of food and air i will use my prices for example as i always try to sell as cheapest on market .
Q3 food 1 at 0.12cc, Q7 Air 1.3cc
Currently for 10 billion dmg it needed :
Energy 25 000
Q3 food 4 166 cost - 500cc
Q7 Air 2 500 cost - 3250cc
==========================
Total cost of taking one TP medal is 3750 CC or 18.75 gold
After update
Energy 32 260
Q3 food 5377 cost - 645cc
Q7 Air 3 226 cost - 4194cc
Total cost of taking one TP medal is 4839 CC or 24.2 gold
Please note if i calculate cost using average market price from best markets total cost of hitting and difference would be significantly bigger to already huge difference in cost. Honestly i m surprised now seeing this numbers yet admin keeps telling us there is to much gold in game from medals?? Where does that gold come from than, as it clearly not from medals??
Another big thing that's not even mentioned by admin is what about Raw materials??
Most of people have build half wep half ship raws, but with this change most of weapons that will be used is for land battles, and much less naval, meaning if we have 75% land and 25% naval battles, while we will be able to change companies we will still be stuck with 50-50 raw.
So price of weapon raw will go up drastically , while ship raw will be hugely overproduced and for years to come will be rendered useless due to fact to get to same level of use we would need to double number of Naval Companies if people split them 75-25, and that is just not gonna happened as game would have to grow mively, while in reality i will be optimistic to say game is stagnating.
In simple words to double number of Naval companies and keep ratio that will be at about 75-25 for every Naval company there will be 3 Land companies build, effectively to get ship raw to current usage we need we will need to double number of all AIR companies we have today and to get where we are now it took us 8 years.
So we have enough ship raw till about 2032!
If you want to go with this change, don't nerf dmg of weapons and along side of letting us to chose and change companies let us to do same with RAW companies .
Also please make it something like this, where we can select Q of company and write number in that we want to change, and with one click job done.
Tho only fair it would be ability to desolve all companies and raw for 75% and rebuild our accounts as we see fit due to this mive change.
Im failing to se admins claim of "Prepare yourselves for these exciting changes" , what part is exiting there? Damage nerf maybe or Ship raw problem ?? Anyone can point out , i just cant find it?
=================================================
Much more could be written on this subject, and i feel with all due respect , that admin is well aware of issues in game but he don't want to address real problems, while masking this as something exiting, as if players have asked for this change, but we didn't.
If this was good update, or any important update as this i strongly believe that it shouldn't be buried in middle of some event announcement and deserve article on its own, where we could discuss and voice or opinion.
Admin, if this is so great update, why trying to hide it??
Here is some real issues that was never addressed or not at least in real sense
- we need map for this game, not copy from another game.
There shouldn't be country that has 5x more region than other (how does that make it fun when one side has 5x advantage for no real reason)
-DO is still joke, i wrote article 2 months ago about DO you have changed it week after so now we get to click one time extra ?? If it wasn't April fools i would think you ware joking? Make DO 10 000 energy spent but make reward 1 or 2 Hyperbars, energy is key to fun in game!
- Address to equipment, its by far outdated, example Q5 leather armor gives you 1 click, cost 1000s of gold to build, useless today
- You keep telling us there is too much gold in game so you removed medals from game, now nerfing TP medal as well.. well gold is not problem, as im sure nobody in right mind today buys gold directly, you just ad it to Packs, and that's fine, but people don't buy pack to get gold.
There is plenty more that can and should be done, fixed, adjusted etc that is more important than change you are doing now..
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Thank you to all that have managed to read till the end, and please if you agree or disagree with my analyzes leave comment with your opinion on subject, as when change does happened, it will be to late to cry about bad admin if you keep silent now. Maybe admin might look at issues that this update will create.
To admin, in this article i was trying to be constructive and point out at what i think this change will do, and its nothing personal, but its bad update if you keep it in format that you have put in front of us, and for me . Only positive i could see its cheaper companies but thats killed off by loss of value of current companies and nerf in dmg,
Thank you for your time
Top Secret
As you all know admin has announced new update that is coming in next few days.
One of most important changes in game is announced but without any attempt to explain
how that will impact game. I will go far enough to say that impact will be so great that
just by fact that little information we did get was attempted to be buried within all that
"events" maybe in hope that we will we wont see it.
Honestly lads, this will have impact as much as did removal of gold rewards for medals we got
years back, so please dont skip it, i know it will be long article, but it is so important
as this update is horrendous for all, fighters, producers, small players and big.
= With admin announcement of splitting AIR companies back to Land and Sea weapons simplicity where we have one weapon for all battles will be gone
So instead of air we will have Army weapon for land, and Navy weapon for sea battles.
First thing we can see from this picture apart from 2 new weapons factories, its upgrade cost and number of employees that can be used per factory.
Total cost of upgrading to Q7 Air factory is 1930g, and plan change will be significantly lower at 1280, in fact about 35%!!!
Now you might think its good thing, and maybe it is , but if you look back just 2 months ago, where many players used their gold to upgrade or build new companies, well congratulations as admin has just wiped out 35% of value of your company.
If you your value of all Air companies today is lets say 10 000 gold after update it will be about 6500, but for big players whose companies are valued 100k or more, their loss will be from 35 000 to maybe even 100 000gold..
On other hand future company upgrade will be much cheaper and you might be happy about that till you dont realize that this update will also impact ability to earn gold easily wiping out that 35%. , i will go in to that more below.
Second thing is number of workers that can work in Q7 factory.
Lets get something clear to Admin, Nobody is using workers anywhere but in top tier factory!!!
So dangling having number of workers at lower tiers is useless and really not needed.
But what is important is that number of workers on Q7 is reduced by 20%
Another big change is Firepower!
Here we can see big nerf in damage that weapons will give with example where player has 100M base dmg
Current ------ example --------------- New -------- example --------- Difference
Q1 --- - x0.4 --------- 140M dmg ----- x0.3 -------130M dmg -------- 10M per 1000 energy
Q2 --- - x0.8 --------- 180M dmg ----- x0.6 -------160M dmg -------- 20M per 1000 energy
Q3 --- - x1.2 --------- 220M dmg ----- x0.9 -------190M dmg -------- 30M per 1000 energy
Q4 --- - x1.6 --------- 260M dmg ----- x1.2 -------220M dmg -------- 40M per 1000 energy
Q5 --- - x2 --------- 300M dmg ----- x1.5 -------250M dmg -------- 50M per 1000 energy
Q6 --- - x2.5 --------- 350M dmg ----- x1.8 -------280M dmg -------- 70M per 1000 energy
Q7 --- - x3 --------- 400M dmg ----- x2.1 -------310M dmg -------- 90M per 1000 energy
So as you can see, if you without weapon do 100M dmg, with current air you do 400M, after update you will be doing 310M, so about 25% less, meaning you will have to hit 25% more to get TP medal, but there its even worse than that.
You apply Booster, mostly used is Q3 with Q7 Air, than you will do 520 M dmg, after change it will be 403M, and with Q5 Buster now 600M and after 465M so 32% less dmg, or 32% more hits needed for TP medal.
Now, when cat is out of bag , that is not all.
If you need more hits for TP, it means you need more energy and more food.
I will calculate cost of doing 10 billion dmg that some need for TP medal with many players needing vastly more with as above example of 100M base dmg player. Cost of food and air i will use my prices for example as i always try to sell as cheapest on market .
Q3 food 1 at 0.12cc, Q7 Air 1.3cc
Currently for 10 billion dmg it needed :
Energy 25 000
Q3 food 4 166 cost - 500cc
Q7 Air 2 500 cost - 3250cc
==========================
Total cost of taking one TP medal is 3750 CC or 18.75 gold
After update
Energy 32 260
Q3 food 5377 cost - 645cc
Q7 Air 3 226 cost - 4194cc
Total cost of taking one TP medal is 4839 CC or 24.2 gold
Please note if i calculate cost using average market price from best markets total cost of hitting and difference would be significantly bigger to already huge difference in cost. Honestly i m surprised now seeing this numbers yet admin keeps telling us there is to much gold in game from medals?? Where does that gold come from than, as it clearly not from medals??
Another big thing that's not even mentioned by admin is what about Raw materials??
Most of people have build half wep half ship raws, but with this change most of weapons that will be used is for land battles, and much less naval, meaning if we have 75% land and 25% naval battles, while we will be able to change companies we will still be stuck with 50-50 raw.
So price of weapon raw will go up drastically , while ship raw will be hugely overproduced and for years to come will be rendered useless due to fact to get to same level of use we would need to double number of Naval Companies if people split them 75-25, and that is just not gonna happened as game would have to grow mively, while in reality i will be optimistic to say game is stagnating.
In simple words to double number of Naval companies and keep ratio that will be at about 75-25 for every Naval company there will be 3 Land companies build, effectively to get ship raw to current usage we need we will need to double number of all AIR companies we have today and to get where we are now it took us 8 years.
So we have enough ship raw till about 2032!
If you want to go with this change, don't nerf dmg of weapons and along side of letting us to chose and change companies let us to do same with RAW companies .
Also please make it something like this, where we can select Q of company and write number in that we want to change, and with one click job done.
Tho only fair it would be ability to desolve all companies and raw for 75% and rebuild our accounts as we see fit due to this mive change.
Im failing to se admins claim of "Prepare yourselves for these exciting changes" , what part is exiting there? Damage nerf maybe or Ship raw problem ?? Anyone can point out , i just cant find it?
=================================================
Much more could be written on this subject, and i feel with all due respect , that admin is well aware of issues in game but he don't want to address real problems, while masking this as something exiting, as if players have asked for this change, but we didn't.
If this was good update, or any important update as this i strongly believe that it shouldn't be buried in middle of some event announcement and deserve article on its own, where we could discuss and voice or opinion.
Admin, if this is so great update, why trying to hide it??
Here is some real issues that was never addressed or not at least in real sense
- we need map for this game, not copy from another game.
There shouldn't be country that has 5x more region than other (how does that make it fun when one side has 5x advantage for no real reason)
-DO is still joke, i wrote article 2 months ago about DO you have changed it week after so now we get to click one time extra ?? If it wasn't April fools i would think you ware joking? Make DO 10 000 energy spent but make reward 1 or 2 Hyperbars, energy is key to fun in game!
- Address to equipment, its by far outdated, example Q5 leather armor gives you 1 click, cost 1000s of gold to build, useless today
- You keep telling us there is too much gold in game so you removed medals from game, now nerfing TP medal as well.. well gold is not problem, as im sure nobody in right mind today buys gold directly, you just ad it to Packs, and that's fine, but people don't buy pack to get gold.
There is plenty more that can and should be done, fixed, adjusted etc that is more important than change you are doing now..
=============
Thank you to all that have managed to read till the end, and please if you agree or disagree with my analyzes leave comment with your opinion on subject, as when change does happened, it will be to late to cry about bad admin if you keep silent now. Maybe admin might look at issues that this update will create.
To admin, in this article i was trying to be constructive and point out at what i think this change will do, and its nothing personal, but its bad update if you keep it in format that you have put in front of us, and for me . Only positive i could see its cheaper companies but thats killed off by loss of value of current companies and nerf in dmg,
Thank you for your time
Top Secret
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Totally Agree !!!!!!!!
Totally Agree !!!
Mute incoming ... !
This game is so simple, but still Admin cant miss to forget something when he makes changes.
This time as I can see, he forget that we also have two types of raw material for making weapons, and he forget about producing missiles. Is is that hard to spend more time on planning new changes?
Well said!
Totally Agree !!!
Well, reduction in number of company types was necessary (long time ago). I've proposed to admin to remove weapon, tank and subs companies two years ago, cause they are useless (to keep just ship, heli and air), and answer was that they are not agree about uselessness of those companies. It was easier solution then this. This caused some issues (mainly about reduction of damage, and issue with requiring much larger storage (now you have to keep/produce two weapon types to be prepared for some war - so double storage space is needed)).
Pročitao od riječi do riječi. Aferim momčino.
Totally Agree !! o7
Totally Agree !!!
right
How else is Admin going to get a large stash of Euro's every day?
Nerf production, nerf damage., nerf Gold medal awards.
Result:
More Euro's from our Visa players. (so I can play for free)
@Hrvat, honestly i dont think that admin is doing this for some possibility or hope that players will spend more money. I think he genuinely is trying to bring some change in hope of improving game but he is doing wrong things wrong way imo (by hiding it) and not addressing real issues. But when game is the best? Simple, when we have lots to shoot, than everything works, economy, battles, fighting is fun ,"Packs" are also sold left and right. Limitation on peoples ability to fight by limiting energy to snail pace is what keeps bringing game and all excitement about game down.
great article, u are awesome player.
I think it should refund all the gold from companies then let player freely rebuild their companies instead of change the companies directly by system. then other side effect like firepower or employees will be solve coz all gold has refund, it fairly and became just start and u can freely spend your gold where u want.
many problem happen because admin never play this game
seriously. like admin limit the q1 q2 food factor in 5, everytime when i need build food factor, i have to upgrade my q2 comanies, then upgrade my q1 companies so finally i can build my q1 food companies, why dont let ppl build q3 food companies when limit q1 q2. many simple problem exist long time. ps. last time i complain produce have to wait few min everyday in these years, admin just improve it immediately, thank you!
great work
thanks Yomada. I know article is long, and there was more stuff that will be affected by change (not all negative tho), but stuff that i did go in to is what i thought thats important and will be most impacted. Lads this is big one, guess in a hour we will see what will happen.
wow, i just seen that over night it went from about 45 votes to 109 ..
When do wecall stop with this shit game?
I totally agree with everything you did say, and everything you "Wanted to Say" but didn't. As per usual, i must have missed Something, because i am now producing 4 times the Land raws as i am Naval when i had it at about 50-50.
I have balked at about every "Update" admins has made to this game. ( Euipment, Pets, ETC. ) and now i have less hitpower than most Noobies. But, i have been here all along and i suppose i will just keep plugging along till i die.
Admin? Is that all you got? Sheeit, bring it MoFo.
I Forgot to add. Yes i am now producing 5 to 1 Army raws, because i am producing 5 to 1 Naval weapons.
Has anybody seen 5 to 1 Naval battles EVER in this game? I now have about 50k naval units to 10k Land units.
This is NOT what i built or intended to build.
Right now there are 24 to 7 Land vs Naval battles which is about normal. But, here i am all of a sudden building 5 to 1 Naval weapons. Doh
Game killer!