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Objavljeno u France - Financijsko poslovanje - 03 Apr 2016 10:20 - 21
hi
i know that article is very late and i allready said in the shouts that admin is trying to kill all new players...
well i was waiting some time to see how the prices will improve but it came even worse than i thought... :(
and this article is not about the heli bug...
there are enough players wich invested RL money to have the same problem with or without that bug in the past...
this article is just about the weapon raw update some days ago...
so what do i think about that "update"?
they lowered the difference between q1 and higher q weapons...
i suggested to raise that gap (and to put a difference of raw needs between different technologys) 2 weeks ago but no one cared about that...
they did the contrary... :/
so what happens now on the market?
not realy much...
the prices are nearly still the same as before...
i can still sell q5 helis for 0.08-0.09g...
so it was getting a little bit down but not much...
before the update i was selling q5 helis for 0.1-0.095g each...
but the wraw prices have been gone down...
because all people now need less weapon raws for their production...
before update they have been at 0.5g per 500 raws...
now they are at 0.4g per 500 and lower...
this is 20% less
and i dont think that the wraw prices will stay at that level...
i think they will go down even more...
every poor player (lol i said poor player but its 99% of all players) who isnt having enough money to build heli comps
was building weapon raw comps to make at least some little money...
so they have now less profit and big players (tbh like me) make a lot more profit...
i make with my q1 helis now more profit because the weapon raws are cheaper...
i make with my q4,q5 heli comps a lot more profit because i need much less raws...
here are the numbers...
all calculated as allways with full weapon bonus and selfproducing raws in q5 raw comps...
this is how it was before the update:
and this is how it is now after the update:
all i have done was to set salary on 0 to show you the profit with manager work...
wich is no difference to a worker but you have to pay the worker a lower salary than you make profit with managerwork...
if you buy 500 raws cheaper than what you make profit with selfproduced raws and managerwork you make the difference extra profit...
so if you pay 0.5g salary to your workers you make 0.07g profit per worker per day...
if you buy 500 raws for 0.4g you make 0.17g profit with that because you now dont need a worker wich is producing raws...
tbh i have no idea where i should spend all that money without making the situation even worse...
if i buy drinks and zookas (what some big players are doing) every small player whould see that he has no influence on the battlefield...
if i buy/upgrade my heli comps i could buy more raws but just such low amounts that you whouldnt notice that on the prices...
if i buy raw comps i could make less profit with selling helis but the guys wich are producing raws whould make no money anymore...
so admin pls tell me where should i invest my gold without killing small players???
at the moment i am paying high salarys (42FRF wich are 0.42g) to compensate that profit plus i make...
i could without problems pay even more but now the other french guys have shown me a problem i was never thinking about...
i am ruining their countrys job market...
if a new player want to hire a worker to work in his q5 raw comp he has to pay at least the same salary like me...
but he cant without making a huge loss...
so i make even more win with my workers...
but my workers now just get 1 time working per day good payed...
when they work for me...
their own comps they can just use for manager work...
35g investment for a q5 raw comp and just one guy can work in it... -.-
i know that article is very late and i allready said in the shouts that admin is trying to kill all new players...
well i was waiting some time to see how the prices will improve but it came even worse than i thought... :(
and this article is not about the heli bug...
there are enough players wich invested RL money to have the same problem with or without that bug in the past...
this article is just about the weapon raw update some days ago...
so what do i think about that "update"?
they lowered the difference between q1 and higher q weapons...
i suggested to raise that gap (and to put a difference of raw needs between different technologys) 2 weeks ago but no one cared about that...
they did the contrary... :/
so what happens now on the market?
not realy much...
the prices are nearly still the same as before...
i can still sell q5 helis for 0.08-0.09g...
so it was getting a little bit down but not much...
before the update i was selling q5 helis for 0.1-0.095g each...
but the wraw prices have been gone down...
because all people now need less weapon raws for their production...
before update they have been at 0.5g per 500 raws...
now they are at 0.4g per 500 and lower...
this is 20% less
and i dont think that the wraw prices will stay at that level...
i think they will go down even more...
every poor player (lol i said poor player but its 99% of all players) who isnt having enough money to build heli comps
was building weapon raw comps to make at least some little money...
so they have now less profit and big players (tbh like me) make a lot more profit...
i make with my q1 helis now more profit because the weapon raws are cheaper...
i make with my q4,q5 heli comps a lot more profit because i need much less raws...
here are the numbers...
all calculated as allways with full weapon bonus and selfproducing raws in q5 raw comps...
this is how it was before the update:
and this is how it is now after the update:
all i have done was to set salary on 0 to show you the profit with manager work...
wich is no difference to a worker but you have to pay the worker a lower salary than you make profit with managerwork...
if you buy 500 raws cheaper than what you make profit with selfproduced raws and managerwork you make the difference extra profit...
so if you pay 0.5g salary to your workers you make 0.07g profit per worker per day...
if you buy 500 raws for 0.4g you make 0.17g profit with that because you now dont need a worker wich is producing raws...
tbh i have no idea where i should spend all that money without making the situation even worse...
if i buy drinks and zookas (what some big players are doing) every small player whould see that he has no influence on the battlefield...
if i buy/upgrade my heli comps i could buy more raws but just such low amounts that you whouldnt notice that on the prices...
if i buy raw comps i could make less profit with selling helis but the guys wich are producing raws whould make no money anymore...
so admin pls tell me where should i invest my gold without killing small players???
at the moment i am paying high salarys (42FRF wich are 0.42g) to compensate that profit plus i make...
i could without problems pay even more but now the other french guys have shown me a problem i was never thinking about...
i am ruining their countrys job market...
if a new player want to hire a worker to work in his q5 raw comp he has to pay at least the same salary like me...
but he cant without making a huge loss...
so i make even more win with my workers...
but my workers now just get 1 time working per day good payed...
when they work for me...
their own comps they can just use for manager work...
35g investment for a q5 raw comp and just one guy can work in it... -.-
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NorfeMiltiadosKomentari (21)
Too lazy didn t read, but the article seems nice
And that s exactly our problem.. You re so right RAF :/.. Thank you for this article, hope admins will take a look at this problem !
Thank you for publishing this article. We already know this change will ensure rich players to get profit. It will ruin small players who can only build raw companies. This article is right.
Simple and Excellent. As always. 
hi phor nice to see that you are still alive...
Very accurate this article, I liked it.
Yes yes yes... Exactly my situation. It s hard to make money. I guessthis game is a hardcore simulator its like RL. Big fishes eat the small ones
beste novine beste popgrupa: Hurra diese Welt geht unter. ,, aber auch: Auf den Trümmern das Paradies. ,, Das ist schon richtig erevollutionär : D
Admins dont have time to read good stuff
point well made, as till about month ago i was able to compete with workers salary (im producing food), but than it started getting impossible to pay worker to produce food and not to take big loss on lower food companies or gamble and try to build q4-q5 food comp just to find out in month or so that this wont be worth it ether.. I can say this, that in no way i would be one of small producers, but simple hellies comps take most of money/workers from other parts of production. I have over 20 companies, and i find it best profit is to work my self. Now as you said RAF, what chance does new players have now, whose 3 companies at start at best will bring them under 0.3 gold per day that is if they sell everything they produce and thats only if they are in country with all bonuses..(when i say everything i mean they cant fight even barehanded as they would spend food they made) , or they wont save up anything more than their wages. Whole structure of game was flawed thanks to that lvl of weap-tanks-helies.. there is no way to fix this unless drastic change is made and im afraid its to late for that, as we seen by now that admins didnt want to bother with heli companies when problem occurred first time.
ofcourse admin lower the gap, he wants everyone to upgrade the comps
@ednau jupp dachte mir auch das lied passt gut zum artikel...^^ @Red Devil thats why i called my newspaper too lazy didnt read... but its not just admins wich read the important stuff... if players whould read it too there whould be no one like TopSecret with a lot of spend gold in food comps... 
@TopSecret with a q5 weapon raw comp you where able to get at least 0.5g for your 35g investment... now its just 0.4g anymore and the price is going down... in some countrys i can buy 500 raws for 0.35g wich means the comp makes profit after 100 days and that just if the country is having full weapon bonus... on the other hand i suggested to make weapon production need more raws but everyone ignored it because the problem was allready there but not that strong and fast growing like after the raw update...
@TopSecret with a q5 weapon raw comp you where able to get at least 0.5g for your 35g investment... now its just 0.4g anymore and the price is going down... in some countrys i can buy 500 raws for 0.35g wich means the comp makes profit after 100 days and that just if the country is having full weapon bonus... on the other hand i suggested to make weapon production need more raws but everyone ignored it because the problem was allready there but not that strong and fast growing like after the raw update...
I was wondering why raw drop so much... and still isn t selling...
Lithuanian rapers are better - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E44X58ZvpLE
@xerta i will search the text of the song when i am back from work and use google translate for you... i bet you like it than more... also together with the article... 
tl;dr
Invest in other players as I do
goooooooodd
Economy is a sphere where every single change must be done after huge calculations and statistics analysis. So the idea to make something new while the whole situation is still on the start position... wrong decision...
Nice and clear explainations, V+S . PS : If you search an invest opportunity I search a loan to upgrate my training ground .
. PS : If you search an invest opportunity I search a loan to upgrate my training ground .
Thats why my 5 q5 wraw compaines are quite useless!