Објавено во Russia - Политички дебати и анализи - 21 Mar 2017 12:31 - 142
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Bonjour.
Hello.
C’est avec une certaine émotion que je vous annonce que je quitte le jeu.J’ai pris du plaisir à jouer pendant 14 mois, j’ai rencontré des gens très sympathique. Mais je ne peux plus rester et jouer sur un jeu qui traite ses joueurs de la sorte.
It is with a heavy heart that I announce to you all that I am quitting the game. I took pleasure in playing this game for the past 14 months and I have met some wonderful people. But I can not continue to stay and play on a game that treats its players this way.
Je précise qu’avant cela je n’avais jamais critiqué un seul modérateur ou un seul admin, j’ai toujours respecté le travail des équipes en place. Je ne croyais pas toujours tout ce que les autres joueurs me disaient sur les abus, les conflits d’intérêts, et les vols de l’équipe d’eRevollution, je pensais que c’était exagéré, mais les accusations de nombreux joueurs ou groupes font sens aujourd’hui.
I will say that before today, I have never criticized a single moderator or an admin - I have always respected the work of the team behind this game. I did not always believe everything that other players said on the abuses, conflicts of interest, and theft of the eRev team. I always thought that these things were exaggerated, but the accusations of numerous players and groups make sense to me today.
Depuis 3 semaines, j’avais pris ma retraite politique et je m’étais mis en mode 2 clics car j’avais beaucoup moins de temps IRL, je venais chaque jour juste pour faire mes clics quotidiens. Quand soudain, hier soir en voulant me connecter je constate que je suis banni !
For the past three weeks, I have taken my political retirement and I have been in 2-click mode due to much less free time IRL. I came each day simply to do my basics activities. All of a sudden, last night while trying to connect, I learned I was banned!
Ne suivant pas trop ce qu’il se pe, je me connecte sur Discord, aucun message privé, je suis le 2ème joueur du jeu, je suis facilement trouvable quand même. Je consulte alors mon email, aucun mail non plus. Banni sans aucune explication ! Première faute grave de la part du modérateur responsable.
Not following too closely what was going on at the time, I connected to Discord and saw no private messages about it. I am the 2nd most experienced player of the game - I am easily found. I checked my email and there was nothing about it there either. Banned without a single explanation! That was the first major error of the moderator responsible for my ban.
Je ne connais pas le modérateur responsable qui a fait cela, puisque même après la fin de mon bannissement temporaire, je n’avais aucun message IG ! On m’a prévenu que c’est un certain Chickerino qui a lancé une opération contre la Russie. Vous remarquerez sa localisation. Si il peut en plus lancé une RW en Far Eastern Russia et causer des problèmes entre la Russie et la Géorgie, pourquoi s’en priver.
http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/452583Capturedecran20170321a151419.png
I do not know which moderator was responsible for this action as, even when my temporary ban ended, I had not received any IG message! I was informed that a certain Chickerino has launched an operation against Russia. You will note his location. If he could also launch a RW in Far Eastern Russia and cause problems between Russia and Georgia, why not?
http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/452583Capturedecran20170321a151419.png
Après le fait de bannir sans aucune explication, la question des joueurs modérateurs se pose, comment savoir si le modérateur n’abuse pas de ses droits pour causer du tord à des joueurs ou des pays qu’il n’apprécie pas ? Il n’y a t’il pas aussi des conflits d’intérêts ? Modérateurs tout puissants et aucun recours pour les simples joueurs ?
Besides the act of banning without a single explanation, the question of player moderators arises - how do we know that a moderator will not abuse his rights to cause harm to the players that he does not like? Isn’t there a conflict of interest there? All-powerful moderators with no course of reprieve for simple players?
Déjà deux problèmes.
Already, two problems.
Ensuite, après le bannissement temporaire sans aucune explication, j’ai envoyé un message au support. La «eRevollution support Team » aucun nom, il ne vaut mieux pas s’identifier quand on traite les joueurs ainsi, m’a répondu. J’aurai abusé de bots pour avoir des travailleurs gratuits.
After the temporary ban without any explanation, I sent a message to support. The “eRevolution support Team”, without a specific name, responded. Best to not identify oneself when treating players this way. I was told that I abused bots to have free workers.
Je n’utilise pas de bots, je ne sais meme pas comment marche un bot. Il y a t’il des preuves dans ce message ? Non aucune, une affirmation tout simplement ! Affirmer quelque chose sans preuve, 3ème erreur !
I don’t use bots and I don’t even know how bots works. Was there any proof in this response? Not at all, just a statement! To state an accusations as fact without any proof, third error!
A l’heure actuelle, je n’ai qu’un seul et unique compte, Miltiados, et un deuxième compte qui partage mon IP, il s’agit de celui de mon colocataire avec qui l’on ne fait aucun échange. Je n’ai donc aucun autre co mpte. Si des comptes suspects ont été découvert en Russie, je ne suis pas concerné et ils peuvent être banni ou non, je n’ai rien à avoir la dedans.
At this moment, I only have one account, Miltiados. A second account shares my IP, belonging to my roommate, with whom I have no interactions in the game. Simply, I have no other accounts. If suspicious accounts were found in Russia - that does not concern me and they could be banned or not, it has nothing to do with me.
J’ai en effet eu des travailleurs à 1 RUB, certains avec qui j’avais des accords en leur envoyant des helis, d’autres avec qui j’avais d’autres accords non matériel. Cette pratique est réalisée par beaucoup de joueur sur le jeu. J’attire votre attention sur deux choses, 1 RUB ce n’est pas un travail gratuit, 0 est différent de 1. Le travail à 1 RUB est techniquement possible sur le jeu. Si ça n’intéresse pas les administrateurs, il suffit de modifier cela avec une mise à jour, mais pour le moment il s’agit de quelque chose possible dans le jeu. Être sanctionné pour quelque chose qu il est possible de faire, c’est inadmissible. 4ème erreur !
http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/124341Capturedecran20170321a184149.png
I did in fact have workers at 1 RUB, some of whom I had agreements with to send them helis, others who I had non-material agreements with. This practice is used by players across the game. I would draw your attention to two things - 1 RUB is not a free work, 0 is different than 1. Work at 1 RUB is allowed by the game. If the admins do not like that, they should simply change how the game works. But for the moment, it is something allowed in the game. To be sanctioned for something that is allowed by the game, that is unacceptable. Fourth error!
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Après ces 4 erreurs, vient le fait le plus grave. Le vol de gold. Avec cette simple affirmation donnée après un mail que j’ai envoyé, sinon j’attendrai encore d’être informé, plus de 3000G m’ont été retiré par des downgrades d’usines.
After these four problems comes the most serious. The theft of gold. With only one simple acknowledgement to an email I sent - otherwise, I would have remained unaware - more than 3000 gold was taken from me by the downgrade of my factories.
En ne prenant pas la peine de contacter le joueur, en affirmant quelque chose sans preuve, on pioche dans les comptes des joueurs ?
Not bothering to contact the player, accusing him of something without proof, and now stealing from the accounts of players?
C’est tout simplement scandaleux ! Ce n’est pas un secret, je suis un des joueurs qui dépense le plus sur ce jeu, argent qui sert à faire vivre ce jeu. Ce qu’ils sont entrain de me dire c’est que l’équipe du jeu peut venir se servir à n’importe quel moment ? En traitant les joueurs ainsi, avec les 4 étapes que je vous ai donné ? C’est une honte et un vol ! Même si l’on a mis 0 argent réel dans le jeu on devrait être informé, des preuves devraient être présentés, et ensuite on devrait être écouté !
It is simply scandalous! It is not a secret, I am one of the players who spends the most on this game, money that allows this game to survive. What they are telling me is that the team behind the game can come take from my account whenever they feel like it? Treating players like this, even with the four problems I have brought up to you?It’s a disgrace and a theft! Even if we put no real money into the game, we deserve to be informed, to have proof presented to us, and then to be heard!
La c’est juste un vol de gold, d’ailleurs disproportionné pour l’accusation, suite à un modérateur qui n’a meme pas pris la peine de me contacter, pour un motif complètement faux, et pour un moyen qui est permis techniquement par le jeu. Je n’ai qu’une chose à dire, bravo, une arnaque bien organisée. Cher admin, si ceci est seulement du fait des modérateurs et que vous n’avez rien à voir la dedans, et que vous trouvez anormal cette méthode, je vous laisse prendre les mesures nécessaires.
This is just a theft of gold, and one disproportionate even to the accusations, taken by a moderator who didn’t even bother to contact me, for an entirely false motivation, and for a method that is allowed by the game. I can only say, bravo - a scam well organized. Dear admin, if this is simply the act of moderators, you had nothing to do with it, and you find these actions abnormal, I leave it to you to take the necessary measures.
Chers citoyens du monde, je vous laisse vous faire votre propre opinion…
Citizens of the world, I leave you to make up your own minds on the subject...
En tout cas, bonne continuation à tous dans vos vies. ♥
Je suis très déçu de cette attitude, moi qui croyait beaucoup en ce jeu.
Si les admins veulent me contacter pour en parler, je suis disponible.
In any case, good luck to all of you in your lives. ♥
I am extremely disappointed by this attitude, me who believe so much in this game.
If the admins would like to contact me to discuss, I am available to do so.
Miltiados.
Miltiados Adventure : 11/01/2016 - 21/03/2017
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o7 my friend. GL in RL
à plus chef
MiMi...
What a pile of BS #Multiados
Love from Motorina for my friend Milti
the best ally and respected enemy in this game good luck
Support o/
Typical admins
First! Damn, I also work for 2 cc. Don t ban my boss, mods.
Hail, my friend. A sad day for us all.
Thank you Milti ! o7
Bonne continuation chef o7
#JUSTICE4OURFRIEND!!!
Merci Milti
Remove moderators. No justice Game. Good luck Miltiados
I would like to share my chocolate for free Milti, but I dont know if they are going to ban us...
v
We are all Miltiados.
o7
o7
damn...
How many times did I read ``end of an era``
Hmm. So admins were fair when your account is sitted for months by Cara, when they let you take Russian CS by breaking all the known rules of game... You were happy when you enjoy such expections and you -maybe not you but your friends- accused those who mention such things by crying. Farewell.
Quel triste jour.. Je te souhaute une très bonne continuation ♥
Scandaleux comme a chaque fois, de l abus de pouvoir sans explication, du foutage de geule et du vol.
Petit complexe peu être, p**** trop petit ou battu par leur maman va savoir.
Quand on est pas foutue de gérer correctement une entreprise, on monte pas d entreprise, on reste couché a la niche et on la ramène pas.
Bref, ceux qui gère cette affaire et font confiance a des modérateurs compulsifs devrait peu être revoir leur staff, sauf si bien sur ils sont de mèche.
Courage Milti et je te souhaite de pas rencontrer de gens comme ca IRL .
:-D
#RemoveModerators
o7
Miltiti..
Goodbye my friend, good luck in RL
bb
issou
@Dryade Multiados :coeur:
Kinyas shut up please half Turkish stronger players have buyed acc so shut up.. Good bye Milti o7
All the best militiados
#JUSTICE4OURFRIEND!!! x2
GL in Real but in game you had too much breaking of rules approved from moderatos or admins so you shouldnt cry I have my opinion about your ban you can contact me on discord
Mods can´t ban. It´s up for admins to review cases and ban and apply sanctions. So...
All the best friend in RL... o7
Tu as été pour beaucoup de personne un idole. Bonne continuation ô7.
amaterizam
ahahaha Serpent speaking about breaking rules man who kill main an multi acc and after that he buy this acc ahahaha so funy
Mods can´t ban. It´s up for admins to review cases and ban and apply sanctions. So... +1
Drink as most of Vodka you in RL see ya
Justice for Miltiados !
njab
when i see scums that plotted to purchase accounts and then accepting them to their country, critisizing about *break of rules* makes me wanna vomit. But then again, this has always been their level. That is no surprise. GL Milti bro o7
RIP Erevollution
It is pity that you leave. I believe you, there is just no incentive for a player that spent so much real money to try earn bits by playing with multiple accounts, high risk low reward. There are certainly some things in this game that are not well regulated. It is possible that someone made multiple account workers for you that you paid fairly with goods they produced without you knowing they were multies.
mods cant ban milti
o7
We are all waiting for a balanced erev and if not why not go to another game ?
On peut donc wipe la russie sans trop de souci désormais.
Au travail hophophop
kinyasgem, I wont spit on your grave cuz that would make my spit dirty...
I have to vomit seeing you talking abt fairness. The thousand of bots of your country destroyed this game, just like brazzda. it feels great that the game is dying and wont even manage to survive longer than . kinyas, betl hirou, enjoy the results of the efforts you have put into this shit. you sold your dignity and honor for.. this?... fucking hypocrite dogs.
At the beginning of article I believed you, but then....to much smoke arround you... same IP, workers for 1cc,... Now I would like to hear the other side.... would be interesting I guess. But I agree a lack of communication is never a good way. 07
Such a pity...
Hello pattonMG? I cant see you blaming celio for have a Strong Multi,Kinyas.
If this is true i really dont get admins/mods. Why is hard to send email with info why you are banned, evidence not in terms of proof but in terms of explanation why and how you got banned so you can explain yourself and/or apeal. I would be pissed to get banned with no explanation.
You win more 3000 golds with only referers (it s not the golds do you ve buying).... Leave the game for that is so stupid....
goodbye
i know you bro. altough i never suffered from this theft nor the banhammer s justice we all saw a lot of examples, i m thinking in retiring from this game also, the only thing that keeps me is the friends i made.
i hope you do well in your life.
see you in another life, oooooooor, another game =D
Milti
Good luck man! Alll the best in RL o7
Nan milti 😢
#eRevIsDead
GL o/
No rules have been broken, it s a non-sence to be ban for using what the game allow to do.... and then if the worker seems to be unclear this shouldn t be the fault of the employer. Else anybody could pick up a job offer for 1cc do the basic 2clicks and hide his IP with a dynamic VPN... maybe it could become a new way of attaking their enemies. Who knows? It s very sad to see such things hapening.
Fuck this game!
Don t understand why admin give superpower to player.....
Gros coeur triste copain,
I Work since month for milti for 1 rub and im not a multi, he gave me some Heli....#fuckthisgame
As I said before, every ban case have to be public. Admin/mod shows the evidence and the player can defend with his evidence.
We are not only players, we are costumers too. If this service is not fair or is boring... we will pick another service. Simple like that.
Clear laws and real/public justice makes costumers happy and happy costumers spend more money and invite new costumers.
Ничего не видно...
well what can I say, that mod couldnt do any action against you without admins approval, so yes admins trying to kill their own game, you are not only one that suffered this kind of abusing, biggest problem in game is to find objective moderators, believe me I was one
First I have nothing against you, or eRussia or anyone else within the game. I investigate everyone equally, I don’t care about nationality, alliance, country or MU they are in, if I find them breaking the rules I will report it. Secondly it’s not normal practice to send a message to the abuser explaining his ban, most people are very aware why they got punished but everyone is free to contact support and ask the reason and present their case/be heard if they think they were treated unfairly, your case was treated as any other. I won’t reveal private details about the abuse you did in public, the admins can do that if they wish so, but what you have claimed here is simply not true, people here are very naive if they think you would be punished without a proper reason. Lastly I found your abuse and I reported it to the admins but it was them who decided to punish you, you can put the blame on me that’s fine, but the abuse you did is on you and you only. Either way good luck on your future endeavors
Its funny Russian talks about justice and fair LOL
#RemoveModerators
Multiados leaving again? Oh hell no
Bien mérité, bon débarras. Au plaisir de ne plus jamais te croiser sur un jeu .
|||Secondly it’s not normal practice to send a message to the abuser explaining his ban, most people are very aware why they got punished||| LOL?!?!?!?! Logic over 9000
So with the decision of the admins we remove the buildings we buy with real money because we used a trick proposed by the admins in their game. That is to say the salary has 1 RUB, Has not put this possibility
Ban the Baners.
GOODBYE LIL SEBASTIAN
If what chickerino is saying is true,milti is forgetting to tell us sth
@Chickerino : Thanks for your message. The fact that come and talk to player isn t a normal practice is exactly the problem. The abuse that is reproach to myself, I ve already described it, having employees with a wage of 1 RUB and using bots. I do not use any bots, It s simply the facts, I can t say anything better, concerning the employees at 1 RUB you can t know the diferent counterparts I gave to them. Most importantly I had several employees with a normal wage. If one employee with a salry of 1cc isn t allowed, admins have to change the minimum wage. Least but not less it do not justify to take out so much gold, especialy when we know that I buy them with real money. So I maintain the accusation of theft. I already noticed that you only make a report and that the whole rest have been decided by the admins, thank you for this information. At the present time, I still haven t recieved any news from them. But base its decision only on the repport of a moderator without contacting the player, I reiterate what i think, namely a lack of professionnalism from the game s staff. It s sad. Sad end for a game I used to love.
Thank you all for your messages of support. I wish you the best for the future ! ♥ / To the haters, i don t care, 99% don t know me.
Gl in rl bro 07
damn Admin dont give to moderator position s to every player ı know miltiados from 14 month he is playing for fun and spending gold for bars and heli s with visa card miltiados didnt need any slave workers !!! admin and fix this problem pls miltiados a good friend and a player we dont want to losing to him ... I think this mod must be fired from moderator position
We are still waiting for any kind of proof about the bot (ip, logs, ....)
And also their is no reasons Miltiados should be the user of these bot, if they even exist.
You find 10€ on the floor you keep them. It not your business to know where they are from. Should you get taken your house for finding and keeping 10€ ?
So you got some 1cc workers with non material agreements but hey everything is normal 1cc is not salary without material agreement. How do you pay them? With your infinite LOVE?
By the way if you say you are leaving the game do it now and avoid us your future cries.
Well it like if someone come to you and apply to a 1cc offer you posted a while ago, without saying anything. I bet everyone would keep this someone
If you want a ban that is what you have to do for sure, if you are a fair player u will never post 1cc offers without giving anything in exchange for the work done.
then put a limited for salary you cannot say 1 cc is illegal price for salary... because game letting you putting prices on salary ı know to miltiados from a starting game he is gentlemen and generous a friend !!! he is dont need any free thing just hes friend registered and worked for milti and everybody know workers are realy problem for employer s
I feel you my friend. Hope justice will prevail for you
@Deadly: what about you shut your mouth? Fire moderator because he investigates players? Admins are the ones who apply bans and sanctions. Mods just report suspicious cases. So if anything, this is something to be solved between administration and Miltiados. Read comments before you say such random stupid stuff. Go back to spamming all chat with your non-stop selling messages. To Miltiados: good luck and have fun! o7
Sounds like some type of miscommunication happened or, in the least, more communication would have avoided the publication of this article even if the ban had been upheld. Whatever the case, the good news is that everyone below World Rank #3 just moved up another spot. It is small victories like this that keep me playing one day at a time.
I think moderators is bellow 15 years..... with no brain
admin, oh admin... Mulai sadis caramu...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JSy4lkg9nI
dont leave boss, stay here
Shame on you erevollution team!
SHAME!
Disgusting behaviour!
Stealing people s money like that!
People who pay YOUR salary!
People who support so much this game/business of yours!
GTFOH SOB!
No te vallas chavo pipipipipi
milti
@Miltiados
Admins were fair when they broke the rules of their own game to give you and other french guys Citizenship of Russia ? i didn t see you complain back then to be honest.
Non ne pars pas comme ça
C est scandaleux !!!!
Oho Georgian multies and Turkish bought accounts soon will pay for server maintenance good luck Milti o/
Ban Gurgians to post comments
Giovinvo the legend has spoken ^^
GJ Admins, so i think i foulnd my RL job, i will find ppl who will work for me, make game like this with bugs, make ppl to buy gold, take money, ban main players, make game die...
GL Milti my bro i will see you on diskord man o/ o7
o7
Giovinco69 even if you depress us on your cp duty, +1
No te vallas chavo pipipipipi
o7
we have tasted many victory and defeat together with you, thank you for everything my dear friend o7
@szelemerke
18 hours ago
kinyasgem... Rotfl xD
@Ancestral f. off and go sell your damages to everyone. miltiados is myfriend dont atack me with shitly laungage everybody have fun in this game mine is economy second thing last time ı writed a note from quran on comment a moderators deleted my comment he told me you cannot writed anything from real life only about game this game not a soscial game then right ? so ıam hating some moderators this is normal and dont want to see mods from game players cuz player can take revange if mod dont like to you he will follow you everyday for ravange everything posibble like old serb mods finaly they lefted from game this is a bit problem for us
Goodbye bro and good luck. Btw, good job admins. Things are looking pretty good for the game. Save the game, ban Miltiados.
Dido - White Flag
so French.
Miltiados in Russia is no rules. You made mistake moving there.
People in Russia are still getting steal at the moment....
Ce sont toujours les meilleurs qui partent les premiers, on peut en déduire qu il ne restera que les modérateurs et les admins à la fin...
Tu étais le meilleur d entre tous, tu seras regretté
Miltiados o7
This game is fucked up.
This is just turning in a huge piece of shit but that normal when we look where he come from. Just copy/paste but a shit will always be a shit and change the colour will not make it better
Game over
whts amazing is that not one admin or mod decided to defend their decision abut ban, or even single comment about it.. I really expected Biskvit to share his thoughts on this...
Apparently he is bored of the game and this is the main reason of leaving. Because no such a powerful and experienced, heavy invested playet leave a game by just saying a simple goodbye. If his accusations are true it is very sad to see that much of power of a mod. But still it is not just to have a conclusion without listening the story from other side, management of the game.
I talked with him on discord, i am sure the proofs i have are sufficient.
o7
No comment from admins?
unban Vegeta886!
:o
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Thanks for all your messages ! I wish you the best. o7 I stay on discord if you want to speak with me : https://discord.gg/Nma7rFr / It was a pleasure to play with you. Farewell. ♥
Biskvit ,ne grizi ruku koja te hrani
RAF Like this.