Опубликовано в государстве Poland - Социальное взаимодействие и развлечения - 18 Oct 2016 15:03 - 24
Hello everyone! Today I want to tell You a story about Thieves and Liars! This is only my imagination, all situations have been invented and are not directed to any particular person. If You know what I mean ;)
In some game called 'erewoluszyn' there was a guy. His name was 'giovinco'. After admins ban his younger brother, he tell the truth about them on main shout. He use bad words for that. Admins give him 24h ban for erewoluszyn, and he ask them why. Of course he knew for what he got banned, but he wanted to bite the admins. And all it has started ;)
He receive message from admins:
So he send next message:
And the other mod came. He send rules to 'giovinco' which prohibit 'exploting other players':
'But it not get back my trainig!' He was mad:
This story isnt over! It will be more and more ;) Sorry for all mistakes!
Czołem Wielkiej Polsce! Precz z komuną! o7
In some game called 'erewoluszyn' there was a guy. His name was 'giovinco'. After admins ban his younger brother, he tell the truth about them on main shout. He use bad words for that. Admins give him 24h ban for erewoluszyn, and he ask them why. Of course he knew for what he got banned, but he wanted to bite the admins. And all it has started ;)
He receive message from admins:
Well first it was because of this, but then we decided to investigate your account, and found more stuff that you deserve punishment for'Thats bad' he tought 'cuz i dont have any multies :D He has some companies, where some workers have low salary like 10 or even 1cc. He send them houses, wep and food. They dont have much time to play game so they decide to help country and work for that salary train hard and wait for better days to start playin more and more.
(multies). (...)Via work : 20 + 56 + 56 + 56.
So he send next message:
All those players were worked for country companies. I have no connection with those accounts. Can You give me a point of regimentAfter an hour without any message he asked: 'If somebody there?'
witch prohibit work for minimum wage?
And the other mod came. He send rules to 'giovinco' which prohibit 'exploting other players':
'First point say something about low wage and average salary, i will ask for some more' He talk and he did it.Exploiting other players and being exploited is forbidden.
Having players work for a low wage (under the average salary for the concerned skill) in the country where the company is located, without any transaction in return equivalent to this salary.This includes account boosting. Meaning that one/several accounts are used to send their ets/work for free for another user to gain resources even if it's by the citizens own will.Receiving most properties (currencies, items, gold, companies) from another player, without any approximately equivalent transaction in return.The staff is not concerned whether the exploit is done by good will or not. The concerned player(s)/Military Unit(s) will be fined depending on the scale of the exploit. Repeat offences might lead to a permanent ban of the concerned user(s)
As for avarage salary, soliders or people that work in country companies have to be paid same as all other workers on market, so check job market in your country, or they can work for minimum salary but you have to pay them through donations.They respond. So giovinco check job market. 'Some offers for 100, 20, 1CC' He even calculate average offer in market - little over 20CC. He starts typin nex message:
I was paid them with houses food and wep. In polish market there are offers with 1PLN. Why You permban those players? Are they brake any rule?And mod respond:
There are offers of 100PLN why didnt you give them 101?'101? I will ruin me, i have only food factories and prices are gettin lower and lower.' Givinco saddened. 'I dont give up that easly.' And another message same to mod.
any ban in game is approved by admin, moderators make calculation, admin check and approve, and then he say, type of ban and how long. Players that are banned can write ticket on support side, or can send mail, and they will get their answer. We do not talk to 3rd person about bans.
We will finish discussion now, your ban has been checked and approved so we do not have anything more to discuss. Your ban will expire in few hours and please do not make same mistakes again.
I have one more question about it. Why should I pay 101 if average salary is 1PLN? Is there any rule, which enforces paying the highest salary?The respond suprise giovinco very much:
why would anyone take a job for 1cc if he can be paid 100cc?let me ask you if your salary in RL is 1000€ and then one day someone want to pay you 2000€ for same job you do for 1000 same contract everything same with your previous job only salary is 2x highest, or if we look at game 100x highest, would you stay on your current job or you would take new better paid job?'Im not asking that...' He scratched his head and try one more time, this time much more clearly:
No offense but I dont ask for Your opinion, only for rule which enforces paying the highest salary. They were woking for country and want nothing more just house, food and weapons for DO to improve them accounts and hit when they have more time to play the game. This was not exploatin accounts, this was not good will. Why you dictate to the players how to play game?The mod wasnt offended so he respond:
we can continue with philosophizing here but it wont take us nowhere, we find it exploitation and its forbiden by game rules, so its punishable.'Strange, but i still want know more about it' Giovinco type another one:
please do not do that again.
I see nothing forbiden when two players take an agreement. When I move twice to some place and do nothig will i get ban? When I sell something for more or less than average will I get ban? When I hit for my enemie will i get ban? Is this game allowed only pay and wait for ban? If You dont give me calculations, and rule wihch enforce me to pay highest salary I will screen our whole talk and write an article just after unban.He was kinda mad, but still calm. Mod send to him screens of game rule and line it by red pencil. He put this 'Via work : 20 + 56 + 56 + 56=188' from first message too. Also he add:
this will be my last msg to you, I really dont want to keep correspondence with someone who dont want to understand that he made mistake, I have tried to explain you things and reasons of your ban, but I see that I'It is time to end it now' Giovinco send this:
shouldnt even try.
I deserve warning or temp for insult that true. But still You dont understand that I was sending equivalent, You sum up all wages but You dont subtract any of equivalent so this is simply thievery. You have not say what is it 'low wage'. For me it is 1.4G per work, for somebody else it is 10CC, so thats the point. He want to workAnd the temban is over so he log in. Imagine his surprise when we saw all gold in right place. 'Somethings wrong, i have to do deeper' And he starts lookin for comapnies, storage and training ground. 'Wait! I have full advanced trainig! Now it is only one star! Where are the rest?' He want to email for mod about it, but there were waitnig next message:
for 10 or even 1 CC it is ok, because it isnt 'low wage' to him, it is only for You. With this rule, You able to ban anyone.
>Choose account
>Pfff... 1000cc, low wage
>Permban
(...)
Thanks for all Your time. You steal my gold, I steal Your time.
sorry bro but I personally didnt steal anything from you, Im not upset cos of my time spent with you,I just want you to understand that Im just guy that answered your mail, and I did it cos you sent me msg on discord,
other MoD did your case, admin approved it, and thats why you got banned.As for me, I would do it other way if that was my case, you would get all SS with prices with salaries you give all counted down and everything would be clear. Im really sorry cos I must be bad guy in this story and one that have to do all explanation.
Kind Regards
'But it not get back my trainig!' He was mad:
Via work : 20 + 56 + 56 + 56 = 188 GOLD
And what You do? Delete my q2;q3;q4 Advanced Training. Is this 188G? I dont know what kinde of calculator do You use there, but i have to spend 20+70+170=290G. How am I believe You now? All eWorld will fined out Your lies.
This story isnt over! It will be more and more ;) Sorry for all mistakes!
Czołem Wielkiej Polsce! Precz z komuną! o7
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RAF904RAF904RAF904RAF904Giovanno69ForystAncestralLyell ThirdКомментарии (24)
stop using multies and play fair. hope you learned the leasson. your excuses didn´t work! NOBODY works for minimum wage.
If i have/had multies I will not be able to write this cuz permban 
@Beto Song you are wrong... i have at the moment just one worker with 1CC salary but in the past i was having 16 workers with 1 CC salary at the same time... i have no multis too and paid them by donation (13 of them by donation to a country account) where is the difference between me and giovinco? he paid his workers by donation too... houses, food and weapons arent for free as far as i know... so it counts as payment by donation...
Makers of the game will make the rules to the game. Our choice is to play according to those rules or go play something else. In my opinion, forbidding low wage work in exchange for donations of supplies is trying to control the game too much. Let Congress set the minimum wage and leave players to play the game and deal with multi cheaters. I mean, why even have a minimum wage law proposal if admins won t let players set it the way they want?
Exploiting other players and being exploited is forbidden.
Having players work for a low wage (under the average salary for the concerned skill) in the country where the company is located, without any transaction in return equivalent to this salary. Even the rules say that if you give equivalent to salary you should be all good.
i want work for 1cc but i can cuz admins give me permban and my employer temporialy fow 24h this is funny.
Why we have options for minimum wage if we can t use it? I have different situation about 1-2 mounth ago, admins stole mi traing q4 my friends get bans
Just checked, looks like Congress in both France and Poland have set the minimum wage at 1 CC. So the rules of the game state that Congress can set minimum wage and that s what they chose. No rules are being broken according to how the game has been designed. Maybe they need to redesign the min. wage system to reflect the Terms of Service rules, eh?
RAF and Wilfie, so true! This accounts play 2click mode and dont need more CC or gold. They were helping me and I help them with daily supplies. I think more and more that all we able to do in this game is pay for gold and wait for ban!
@Beto Song - I work for myself for a minimum wage. Does that mean I am exploiting myself and I need to be banned?
@Phor -- Working as Manager is Slave Labour! Shame on you.
Chirp Chirp unhuman
Phor Killick expect to get banned 
@DreSanu - I m waiting since Day 36.
That is why this game is good as fun and casual clicker game. Investing a Real Money is stupid, as administration has right to remove any items from your account, delete your account and anything and everything can be taken away at their discretion. There are so many things that are forbidden or against the rules (that are used in game as a matter of fact) that just about ANY account can be banned - if some over-eager administrator/moderator chooses to do so.
As in history @Hrvat
-Choose account
-Pfff... 1000cc, low wage
-Permban
well, eso es una pendejada :l
Admin should use some softwares to find mılties, seems they ban just with old type observations
@SOLAR - Everyone knows if they would even get a modern checking system, phantom would be automatically banned as first person. So they are stick to outdated methods.
Hail ćwir, showing big balls against admins since day 36 o/ o/ o/
bla bla bla, mimimi... childrens don´t like to follow rules
loled hard about Beto Song... discussion with you is always going that way: you are reading a text without understanding (or od you simply just ignore them?) core parts of it... after that you open the discusion with a crazy thesis... no facts, no proofs... you just say something what is completly wrong... and after several people are telling you that you are wrong (inclusive facts and proofs) you answere with that: /Beto Song
8 minutes ago
bla bla bla, mimimi... childrens don´t like to follow rules/ you sound like one of those kids who have to play hide and seek alone... the one and only time you played hide and seek with other kids was when all other kids have run away from you and you where too stupid to count so you had to wait with closed eyes in a dark forest for several days... sad but true...
Raf904, you are not fair, its simple, ask battlehero what he look before he ban someone, all mod s are doing same
What mean average salary? How It is counted? Looking at polish job market we have sum of offers ~304 count of offers ~19 in result average salary is about 16. (Of course I don t know how much offers has one employer)
I m wondering why in real life some of as get higher salary than other for the same work?
It s good method to win war, Register as new player in your enemy country, put on market job offer for 1000cc - Writ ticket to admins that, employers pay their workers too low sallary.
Lol Miguel