Објављено у Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) - Политичке дебате и анализе - 10 Aug 2016 13:02 - 348
Hello ladies and gentleman, friends and foes.
I'm orkan from Macedonia.
SINCE DAY 1 we've been witnessing alot of flame wars in the main chat, on random articles, private messages and so on. There are few common themes that are the reason why these flamings started for a bigger number of them.
I'm not going to start listing them, because in this article we will talk about one,
about the arguing between MACEDONIANS AND GREEKS for the name REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA / FYROM.
I believe every each of you reading this article has heard about the name dispute between Macedonia and Greece.
*I'm not going to ociate this with history in any way, because this is a war simulator & game and we don't really care what happened IRL back then, right?
Alot of moderators have witnessed these arguements and flame wars themselves and most of them ended with a punishment on players.
In this article, I'm calling the SUPERMODERATORS to remove the FYROM ACRONYM that MY country has next to it's STATUTE / LEGIT NAME - REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA.
There is no reason that this ACRONYM has to be in this game since it causes, pretty much, only FLAME WARS.
Macedonia is recognized under it's statute name, Republic of Macedonia, by 133 countries in the world (which I can provide a list of) by December 2011. Yet, ONLY 17 COUNTRIES are not recognizing Macedonia under it's statute name and use the acronym FYROM for official purposes (I can also provide a list of these countries).
I think we all just come to a conclusion that this acronym is DEFINITELY NOT NEEDED to stay next to our name, just to cause flame wars and insults over and over.
Just because, I believe, my voice as an individual is not as influental as the voice of the people, I start a PETITION, which will allow to everyone that agrees this to be changed ("FYROM" removed from our name).
At the end of the topic, I will link & mention every player that signs this petition publicly and recognizes Macedonia as REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA as an individual.
*I believe, a TICKET will be noticed by administrators more.
IF ANYONE HAS 2 MINUTES TO SPLIT FOR A TICKET ABOUT THIS, I & MY COUNTRY OVERALL WOULD BE VERY HAPPY.
I have also prepared a text to make your job easier, here's what you should implement in the ticket:
"I, (insert name here), recognize Macedonia under it's statute name and find the acronym FYROM useless and a reason for unrequired flame wars between the players."
This is the section for the petition. If you agree with this arguement and would like to sign this just comment "SIGNED".
1. orkan
2. Magellan
3. TerrorMachine
4. PowerGirl
5. Resident Evil
6. ATEHTATOPOT
7. PersejMakedonski
8. Nazzgul
9. KroBraca
10. Bocee
11. bob_rock
12. Weird Howl
13. MasterAltair
14. W1zl
15. Mendesco
16. Sharingan
17. Samoubiec
18. opsyen
19. synhro
20. Ahileus
21. ida
22. PolarB3ar
23. reVokasi
24. Makedoner
25. AlexxxZR
26. Hugues
27. PlavSupermen
28. New Guy
29. Tarsi
30. Vaitape
31. mkd11w
32. damjanku
33. Kh4ron
34. TheThomas1805
35. athany
36. RazurnuvacMKD
37. Filip888225
38. nikiru
39. Markosss
40. asdasdasd
41. Armbot
42. eMacedon
43. Lucas Hood
44. machetofibi
45. BATASHA
46. pop trajan
47. Sk1tS
48. Shaaaaaggy
49. abbadon994
50. Vojo Radikal
51. lutor
52. el Macedonico
53. marula
54. oKik36
55. cakiMK
56. stray inu
57. OTTOMAN JR
58. Kikobe
59. Argentist
60. edahi
61. spitfireYG
62. seki333
63. rapid
64. gocebs
65. Sendvichot na Grujo
66. Jocolom
67. LuciferFromHell
68. John Lucas
69. izzy G
70. Arbust
71. Bulaja
72. Hrvat
73. HustlerTV
74. Fingolfin
75. Legija
76. ZhukovMK
77. TorPeD0
78. KiseloMleko
79. Pentito
80. Mlagjo
81. Knight of Brutality
82. iBringYouHell
83. PedzaMKD
84. Forever
85. Skynet00
86. DarkBlack
87. ASAP
88. Qenon
89. StefanKole
90. DevinMey
91. goodbeer
92. Gibe
93. Gobyz
94. Res1n
95. xemma
96. KristianMK
97. SimeMKD
98. gabinheta
99. Perdika I
100. Crep
101. Jugoslovenka
102. Kuranfil
103. The One
104. elfangor
105. mekilla
106. malvi
107. Souflor
108. Mozoce
109. komeng_saja
110. baubau
111. Hendikepiran Slov
112. Xherrz
113. devil04
114. djambaz
115. Miura
116. HuMavi
117. vooztrollin
118. SilentOne
119. Antimon101
120. barnabinnyu
121. Saunier
122. GecifejuDawe
123. Archimagus
124. Zivacki
125. Predrag
126. Alfashot
127. Joanid
128. spage
129. SusuMadafakinKosa
130. Plato
131. covece
132. Macedon23
133. FoxGin
134. DoNMakedoN
135. adimovska
136. bumblebee
137. bojana
138. Hermes
139. dzimi
140. BokiTwister
141. Crnorizec Hrabar
142. Lieke96
143. Djaki
144. codank
145. Riven
146. Gofonja
147. Tomislav
148. FelixGU
149. SOAD
150. sir Nordgen
151. Mladencho
152. Nilson
153. Rias Gremory
154. Ikorx
155. emigrantot
156. Mr borros
157. referalceto na ate
158. Sieghen
159. Glitch07
160. exfled4mk
161. MysteriousMind
162. yuomo
163. AjkeN
164. ToniCarry
165. CenqiSKhan
166. Crusader
167. MLAD MAJOR DJURISIC
168. NicolasDF
169. Arates
170. Micoo
171. investmkd
172. BlackFury
173. IgorWolf
174. Ragn0
175. Trevasou
176. Piroman
177. Vladika
178. Plexus MKD
179. Szilveszter
180. OldGunFighter
181. Maximus
182. Aoca
183. Henry VIII
184. laskigv
185. topsifon
186. Devetka
187. temelko
188. DaltonicD
189. Murat Monstrum
190. Openote
191. joeytribanni
192. Gandalf the White
193. Furius
194. NueveOcho
195. StefRagnar
196. Nemeton
197. maru
198. Lukas Pim
199. jungrim
200. EReJS
201. HRabro
202. snlerdgn
203. Stojance
204. Soboo
205. Deadalus
206. Jinky Jonston
207. HEIMDALL
208. VoinSveta
209. MrPanda
210. Guardians66
211. Stervo
212. Phor Killick
213. Borghese28
214. Sirius 7
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it is funny because fyrom still uses the word macedoina lol o7
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ONLY 17 COUNTRIES are not recognizing Macedonia under it s statute name and use the acronym FYROM for official purposes (I can also provide a list of these countries). can we see the list ?
MACEDONIA BRE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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FYROM will always stay FYROM. Deal with it your country was Made by criminal Tito.
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fyrom will always stay fyrom. Deal with it your country was Made by criminal tito. x2
Why not start a discussion about Kosovo while at it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vsPB_lbo94
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@Sokol @Melvinovicz *I m not going to associate this with history in any way, because this is a war simulator game and we don t really care what happened IRL back then, right?* PLEASE READ THE TOPIC FIRST.
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@orkan you can t even be Macedonia in game. You will forever stay FYROM
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orkan-in any internatiomal organisation,your name is fyrom.
so,no matter how a country call you,you are FYROM.
end of story.
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Dude you have both Republic of Macedonia and FYROM Plus fyrom is in braquet.
It s just there to prevent people from complaining that fyrom should be the reel name of Republic of Macedonia. And there is a lot more people like that than what you think
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No offence but UN officially refers to you only by using the acronym FYROM so you are officially called FYROM and also you had agreed with Greece to be called like that until the problem with the name is solved...the thing that you don t respect the agreement is something different
again no offence because i don t want to argue with anyone...just giving some facts that you are always forgetting when you are talking about that issue
Fyrom fyros fyroc fyrob etc.
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Republik of Iliroda Petition click here
SPYROSB THIS GAME IS NOT RUN BY THE UN AS I KNOW??? THE REAL LIFE GOVERNMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US. REAL LIFE HISTORY EITHER. WE SHOULD BE CALLED WHAT MORE THAN 2 BILION PEOPLE AGREE TO CALL US, NOT WHAT FEW POLITICANS DID.
70% of Macedonia is greek territory. The other 30% is at Bulgaria and Skopje. Your country has the smallest territory of Macedonia.
You can call yourself Macedonian but at least you have to speak and write like ancient macedonians and ancient macedonians used the Attic dialect (one of the main greek dialects) and not that mix of bulgarian and slavic dialect you use now.
first of all caps lock off bro...secondly as far as i know people call countries the way they learn from the books that are made from politicians orders
thirdly this game not be run by UN doesn t mean you can put whatever name you want in a country...if it s like that then why every other country has their official name?
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i cant sign it, if we sign, that artwork will be useless https://www.erevollution.com/en/article/7290
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oh my god only you greeks are butthurt about it just let it go they are called macedonia
*I m not going to associate this with history in any way, because this is a war simulator game and we don t really care what happened IRL back then, right? ... You are asking us to call your country by the name of a region mildly related to it, so you re already associating this with history.
YES. You said it yourself. every country has it s official name, THIS ACRONYM S PLACE IS NOT ON THIS GAME! @mcmoox to avoid spam I will provide you with a map: green-recognize Republic of... ; blue/white-unknown ; red-FYROM = http://prntscr.com/c44io7
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@NAzZGuL i agree at the point of everyone can be called however they want...In my opinion you being called Macedonia is ok because you have a small part of ancient macedonia so f@ck it and take the name...BUT that doesn t mean that your country has nothing to do with ancient macedonia...and here comes the problem...if i let you have the name then you want more like the history of ancient of macedonia which always in my opinion has nothing to do with your country at the moment...so the solution for me is not to let you even have the name...that s all
again no offence...call yourself whatever you want, but don t force me call you they way you want when this is not official by any means
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SpyrosB I m trying to avoid arguements about Ancient Macedonians and Ancient Greeks not to go off topic. I d please you too, not to do so, we can argue all day in PM if you want
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FYROM stop stealing Bulgarian history !
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Bro how the heck you want to avoid arguments about the kingdom that you want to take the name from?
i am totally in topic and your article is totally off the game topic...if you want to avoid things stop writing that kind of articles all the time...for Greeks is really badthat you even have Republik of Macedonia before FYROM but we don t write articles all the time
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FYROM is an useless acronym, that causes only flame wars from the beggining. You re not offended everytime you see your country, don t complain. If you want articles about history, you can find at one of my very first.
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ok sorry bro you country name is FYRM...thank you
anyway you will never understand so goodbye...i really don t want to argue with anyone...have a nice game guys
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@NAzZGuL have you ever asked the 47% of your population with albanian roots how they want that country be called? (After I will ask you about the bulgarians )
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@spyros look .. i think that me as a macedonian dont have any realation ship with the ancient macedonians so as with alexander the great . I dont want alexander to be any similiar with me and my name because no mather how inteligent he was and how good strategist he was he was a qonqueror and killer i dont know the excact number but i think more than 100 000 killed by him (he is very similar to hitler).i think today germans are not very proud about hitler . The one who are fascinating me and make me proud as a human are the great minds that make the world a better place to live the philosophes like sokratis platon aristotel shopenhauer etc etc ...
Please avoid argues, insults, provocations on this article. THANK YOU.
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Another spiros xdd 47% albanians haahahhaha man huh i dont know what to say about your problem with maths..
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FYROM= former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia FOPOG= former Otoman Province of Greece its same
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So if it has nothing to do whit RL, then can every country in this game change their name to whatever they want?
That said, I do think the Macedonia - FYROM thing is kinda stupid, but understandable from both sides.
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Macedonia!! o7
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Sorry guys, but Kiro Gligorov said that you are not:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_gjBAhak18
Leave with it !! You are Slavs, not Macedonians.
I love listening Greek propagandas. Please, read this and learn something. http://www.pollitecon.com/html/ebooks/risto-stefov/the-little-book-of-big-greek-lies.pdf
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Kosovo is recognized by 111 countries as indipendent ..still remain part of eSerbia on this game...
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Macedonia is Greek
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This article is about eRevolution if you want to talk about history read my article https://www.erevollution.com/en/article/8328
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What about Kosova ?
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Sigmed with blood! NO MORE FYROM! LONG LIVE MACEDONIA!
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You make a big mistake... You are not Macedonians, you are Slavs... 330+ history professors from all world support this...
xarisk, 3.3b people from the world don t really care about it and say it s Republic of Macedonia
Born in 1991 speaks eBulgarian language has greek names and japanesse flag quess the country
This article,is just sick humor,like the name of this newspaper....
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My flag is wrong mate I m from eUSA
# orkan # Your country with external help,have aim to create own identity, distorts historical data...
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Hmm why only countries of UNITY say signed ?I thought all people believe that and not only ur friends...
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5 gold and I sign. Greece pay your debts you damn cheap Turks.
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Look better Chris
Thanks my friend Orkan for put the flags and we can see ur UNITY friends put their signature.
Sharingan you will call me ChrisGeoRM or Χρήστος.
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Chris sounds like english name are you sure you are greek ?
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Its something like CHRISakopolusos32133 and that means something in greek so hes pretty sure hes 130123 greek
Its Χρήστος u prefer that?ohh sry u cant even write it.And Sharingan is so macedonian,im sure Alexander the Great his second name was sharingan
Sorry, but Macedonia is Greece, True Macedonia is Hellenic not Slavic.
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@Shar because in greek it will sound like jesus
FYROM is gonna FYROM
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signed, btw this has no conenction with Kosovo, thats another topic i dont know why are you comparing
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lol they are making new citizens now to vote.Hail FYROM!!
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I, Res1n, recognize Macedonia under it s statute name and find the acronym FYROM useless and a reason for unrequired flame wars between the players.
Signed!! Makedonijaaaa
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HAIL MACEDONIA ! Signed o7
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And just to add something for a comonsense to all the greeks here.
How can Macedonia be Greece?
Macedonia was Macedonia in the ancient times and Greece was Greece in that time so how come then by your point of view just like that Macedonia become Greece? How you come to conclusion that Macedonia is Greece ? I dont get it.
Its simple Macedonia was always Macedonia and Greece is different country and was called Greece or Hellas.
SO please dont try to steal other countries name for your own purpose.
We all know how the history is and the truth. Like they say The truth is always painful.
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I, komeng_saja, recognize Macedonia under it s statute name and find the acronym FYROM useless and a reason for unrequired flame wars between the players.
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I just have one question for greeks, when you say we don t respect our agreement with you, i will ask u, Why you don t respect Bucharest agreement and give back our regions? Come on. Let me see you now, mountain people.
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Signed. i still cant believe that synhro signed that. how he will make articles about fyrom after that....
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The greatest confirmation for us ... Prime Ministers and Ministers of FYROM think you are Slavs and Macedonians is Greeks... Alexander the Great was Greek, was not Slavic, Slavs and their language arrived on the region 1000 years later.... This is real history....
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republic of Paprika ...
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You have make an error. You have put an hungary flag next my pseudo but i m french.
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Signed! Zdravo, orkan! Kako sy?
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hahahaha Macedonia is Greece, u are just small fyrom. Deal with it
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This article fully replies to newspaper name - sick humor daily - what if we just play the game and try prove what we are with better damages instead of articles
Ancient Macedonia are Greeks! Today you speak and and write on Bulgarian. Brainwashed people pfffff.
Go home FYROMans,you are drunk!
you mean Fyrom
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Signed. Dumb ass greeks,check our language and alphabet and compare it to the bulgarian. And what language do you speak on ? Bullshit language thats not even close to any other existing..made up language just like your country and your dignity. If its not us-morons,who go on vacations in your stupid country, you wouldnt have money for electricity to play erevollution so shut the **** up.
Brainless naps,your politicians said its fyrom because of their own agenda and you follow blindly like sheeps. And eRev si a game,we have a right on choosing our name on the freaking eMap,if we want we will name ourselves FUCK GREECE. So stop the spam and enjoy the food while you still have it. I ve been playing this game for a few weeks only,and yet i am annoyed by the cancerous community here
@adimovska, you just shot your self in foot with your argument.
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ARTICLE UPDATED. If you find a mistake please comment or PM me. LET S HIT 150 BECAUSE I KNOW WE CAN DO IT. FOR THE GLORY OF MACEDONIA!
Nice from you FYROM for glory a Greece region
Macedonia is Greece
Fyrom is Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
ps : United Nations
FYROM DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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Moze li BJRM?
@NikolaRS to ti je FYROM al na nase, takodje se smatra za akronim sto znaci ne
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SpyrosB ass avatar is so cool! Salute that ass.
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Macedonia
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issou La chankla
The most important question is what about the name of Canada? It should be changed to reflect the real history of that nation.
Former Colony of United Kingdom.
FCUK
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Mordor is better imo
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Think about countries that are not even recognized as a country like Palestine in UN, even its recognized by 130 countries. You still have a country
https://www.un.int/protocol/sites/www.un.int/files/Protocol%20and%20Liaison%20Service/officialnamesofcountries.pdf
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@Gandalf dont make me mad : D @temujinBC maybe Former United colony kingdom (fuck) is better
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lol guys,its ok u want to have a vote.great!
But what is this??U creat accounts in Greece (Csenophen,Xyphos) and you sign?Thats for laughs....
ChrisGeoRM please avoid trashtalking while you re uninformed. We re waiting admin to confirm who those accounts belong to. Do you see them on the list. Get the heck away from this article if you re about to start provocations and flames. Thank you, grow up.
Only name u should be called except FYROM is Southern Serbia... So please, dont cry around and be nice FYROMANs xD
I would agree with ur move make this article Orkan only if u had it like a referendum,so people will say if they agree or DISAGREE with your propose.So we will have a full picture of these results...
@Babo biggest traitor , left serbia and join their biggest enemy france ...well done mr traitor! Shut up you are the last who need to talk about this. TRAITOR!
I have nothing to do with referendum s since I don t have that power. The only way we could do it is with a petition. A fair petition. Noone will ever acquire anything with cheating @Babo, you should do some cardio
I learned from FYROMANs when Serbia was under attack and u was signing NAP with Greece. In that moment u wasnt shouting CALL ME BY MY NAME whhaha couse u was smaller than bean. xD
So Orkan if u want to change the name of ur country u have to take the permission from ur CP and make a referendum to all the server and we will see the results...
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The petition is supported by our CP and the government.
So what power is missing to u to do this?
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@Babo when serbia was under attack u was hidding somewhere under some table. U was CP and u left serbia ..good TRAITOR!!! You sell your ass very cheap . Barajse vo nekoja bolnica duri imas vreme
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i WANT to call me KING OF THE FOCKIN UNIVERSE so you better all call me KING OF THE FOCKIN UNIVERSE, mkay?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I want to sign too.
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My name is MACEDONIA o7
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List fully updated. Please let me know in PM/Comment if there is a mistake or you re not added. Tomorrow (or on 200 signs) I will make a list of how many supporters there are by each country. THANK YOU PEOPLE. O7
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Signed. Makedonija ili Južna Srbija.
Macedonia for the Macedonians
Macedonia timeless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So it s this a Sick humor daily post? :p
Macedonia naming dispute [PETITION] lol ... you could have found another newspaper to post this, haha
FYROM FYROM FYROM
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Lol, what a funny article. Blame Tito for the brainwashing. Macedonia is a greek region.
No dispute possible.
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Interesting. Radicals are for Greater Serbia (Macedonia is a part), and signed it. South or Old Serbia only.
FYROM not MACEDONIA MACEDONIA IS GREEK
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Сигнед...
NOT SIGNED! CHANGE FYROM TO TÜRKİYE CUMHURİYETİ!!
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Macedonia is Greek
Serbia is France
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Republic of Slavic Fyrom
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Butthurt eastern Slavo-Bulgarians, Macedonian wannabes.
Did you ever consider the 40% of your population that are actually Albanians, if the ever wanted you to drag them into that stupid agenda of yours..??!!
Giagiorgos If they didnt wanted to be draged they shoulnd t have come to Macedonia
If yo won t add me to the article, then I ll unsign this petition!
Signing again, cause not really sure if owners of this game understand, so if there is no rl in this game then why RL countries on the map ... I mean this is nonsense utmost and in deed ...
lol alexander the SKOPJANNNN Hahahahahahahhahaha
Makedonija je u Grckoj, neznam u cemu je tvoj problem!?!? Propustio si koji cas Istorije? BRJ je tvoja zemlja !
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Srdjan M voshitujem se koliko si autistican , all added
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If you sing it you dont know HISTORYYYYY
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I don t sign, Macedonia is F.Y.R.O.M
Nobody is added on the list if he didnt sign. You can delete your comments but you cant delete your names from the list. On this present day ladies and gentleman notice how many Serbians are calling Macedonia as FYROM. I believe Serbs won the award for the most pathetichypocritic people on the game. We all know they re drama queens since the beggining.
and i thought u are from Egypt orkan ^^
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You can remove your comments, but you cant remove your name from the list, Serbians. No name is added randomly there o7
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